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  • Verbal Expression of Interest - Internet Applicant Rule
    Asked by Anonymous - Aug 08, 2017
    If a candidate applies to a requisition, is not qualified but expresses interest in a different open requisition, would their verbal expression of interest be enough for the recruiter to consider for the second requisition? That is, would a recruiter not have to ask the candidate to apply to the second requisition if they verbally expressed interest and how does this affect their status under the internet applicant rule?
    Answered by Bill Osterndorf from HR Analytical Services - Aug 08, 2017
    Your company has the right to make the decision that candidates may verbally express interest in an open position. It is not a best practice for the reasons noted below, but there is nothing in OFCCP's Internet Applicant rule or any other part of the federal affirmative action regulations that prevents a company from having candidates make a verbal expression of interest.

    Among the reasons that allowing a verbal expression of interest is not a best practice are the following:

    -A verbal expression of interest may violate your standard practice (and perhaps your standard requirement) that in order to receive consideration, a candidate must make written application. Most companies now do, in fact, have such a requirement. By allowing one candidate to receive consideration after violating such a requirement, OFCCP may be suspicious of any requirements you put in place to limit the number of candidates who receive consideration. OFCCP would certainly be suspicious of any attempt by your company to say that candidates must apply through a defined process to receive consideration if you allow undefined exceptions to that process.
    -A verbal expression of interest will likely require your recruiter to move the candidate's credentials from one requisition to another. We very strongly discourage organizations from having recruiters move a candidate's credentials between requisitions. It muddies the issue of who applied for particular requisitions and it potentially makes large pools of candidates who expressed interest in one requisition into viable candidates for the second requisition. In this situation, there IS an expression of interest, so your company could argue it is valid to move the candidate's credentials between requisitions. However, it may be difficult to PROVE to OFCCP why this particular candidate's credentials were moved unless you have written documentation about the verbal expression of interest.
    -It's going to be difficult to explain to OFCCP what constitutes an appropriate verbal expression of interest. The situation is easier if a candidate says "I'm glad to be considered for the opening where I formally expressed interest, but I saw a separate requisition and I'd also like to be considered for that." However, what happens with the candidate who says "I'm glad to be considered for this job, and I'd like to be considered for this kind of opening in the future"? What happens with the candidate who says "I'm glad to be considered for this job, and I'd like to be considered for similar jobs in the future?" Your company has the right to define what would constitute an appropriate verbal expression of interest, but it may be difficult to create such a definition.

    Frankly, it's just simpler to tell the candidate who verbally expressed interest to use your open position to use your regular process to express interest in the second opening. This saves you from the multiple headaches associated with showing that your company (a) allows appropriate verbal expressions of interest from candidates within all protected classifications and (b) clearly defines which candidates properly expressed interest in open positions including the candidates who verbally expressed interest.

  • EEO Tagline
    Asked by Anonymous - Aug 02, 2017
    We are updating our EEO Tagline and wanted to confirm this abbreviated version works for our publications with limited space: EOE/AA Employer/Vets/disabilities
    Answered by Bill Osterndorf from HR Analytical Services - Aug 08, 2017
    That would work. It meets the requirements in the Executive Order 11246 regulations as well as the requirements in the regulations regarding protected veterans and individuals with disabilities.

  • Jurisdictional Thresholds determinations
    Asked by Debbie M. - Jul 27, 2017
    I am curious as to the language used to determine if your company is a Federal Contractor. For AAP Coverage under EO11246 it states you are if you have 50+ employees + "A" contract of $50,000 or more. Same for Disability Section 503 and VEVRAA. What if you have several contracts that add up to $50,000 or greater (similarly $150,000)? Is this specific to one contract or the dollar amount of the combination of all Federal contracts?
    Answered by Roselle Rogers from Local JobNetwork™ - Aug 01, 2017
    The guidance from OFCCP specifies a single contract of $50,000 or more as the threshold for developing a written Affirmative Action Program to comply with E.O. 11246:

    “If a company has at least 50 employees and a single contract of $50,000 or more, then it must also develop an Affirmative Action Program (AAP), as described at 41 CFR 60–2. Companies whose sole coverage comes from construction contracts or federally assisted construction contracts are not required to develop an AAP, but they must comply with 16 specific affirmative actions outlined in the equal opportunity construction contract clause.”

    The same is true for Section 503 and VEVRAA compliance, except the contract threshold is higher for VEVRAA.

    Section 503:

    “If the company has at least 50 employees and a single contract of $50,000 or more, then it must also develop a Section 503 AAP, as described in 41 CFR 60–741, Subpart C. Section 503 applies to businesses with federal construction contracts, but not to businesses with federally assisted construction contracts.”


    “If the company has at least 50 employees and a single contract of $150,000 or more, then it must also develop a VEVRAA AAP, as described in 41 CFR 60–300, Subpart C. VEVRAA applies to businesses with federal construction contracts, but not to businesses with federally assisted construction contracts.”

    Note, however, that this is not the threshold that determines if a company is a federal contractor. This is just the threshold that will require a federal contractor to develop a written AAP. You are still a covered contractor subject to the nondiscrimination and affirmative action requirements enforced by OFCCP if you fall under the following:

    • E.O. 11246: Any number of employees and federal contracts (including federally assisted construction contracts) totaling more than $10,000
    • Section 503: Any number of employees and a federal contract of more than $15,000
    • VEVRAA: Any number of employees and a federal contract of $150,000 or more

    For more information, refer to OFCCP’s Infographic and their webpage on Jurisdictional Thresholds.

  • Supplier/Vendor Notification
    Asked by Richie F. - Jul 26, 2017
    Part of the OFCCP compliance is notifying our vendors and suppliers of our AAP status and letting them know they must comply as well with it.

    Do you know what the best way is to determine who truly should be notified? We have tons of vendors and suppliers some of which are like Amazon, Staples, etc. that I don’t think this would really apply to.

    What's the best way to make a distinction?
    Answered by Lisa Kaiser from The Kaiser Law Group, PLLC - Aug 02, 2017
    This is an excellent question. OFCCP jurisdiction with regard to subcontracts, vendors, etc. is very confusing often both within and outside of the agency. The core question is whether the contract or agreement is in furtherance of the federal work. If a company provides widgets and a third party vendor supplies the components, then that vendor is likely a subcontractor. If a third party vendor supplies new office furniture, that supplier is not likely a subcontractor and would not need to be notified. The same if you purchase new paper shredders or something like that from Amazon or Staples, for example. When in doubt, it is usually a good practice to include that language. Sec. 60-1.4 equal opportunity clause, requires language in "each of its Government contracts." The laws protecting individuals with disabilities and veterans have similar language.

  • Historical Data for different time period than your employee snapshot data
    Asked by Anonymous - Jul 17, 2017
    I was always taught that you run an AAP by selecting the snapshot date and then pulling the historical actions for 1 year back from that date. I can find no legal or regulatory item outlining that the snapshot date and historical year must match up this way.

    Can a Company have a snapshot date of, say, January 1, 2017 for example and have their historical dates be April 1, 2016 through March 30, 2017 rather than the traditional January 1, 2016 through December 31, 2016. This means the Year End monitoring or Q4 would not be completed until 3 months after the snapshot date. This seems wrong to me but I can find no regulatory reason that would not allow this. I might also add that the narrative date (AKA "Plan Date") is April 1, 2017.
    Answered by Bill Osterndorf from HR Analytical Services - Jul 18, 2017
    The simple answer to your question is "No." The personnel activity data should have dates that are attached to the snapshot date.

    There are multiple reasons for this. The simplest is that it is illogical to have data sets that don't correspond to each other. You're trying to measure outreach activities and potential disparities via your personnel activity data, and you're trying to measure demographic distribution within the current workforce via the snapshot data. There should be a link between what the demographic distribution looks like, the outreach activities that may have produced that distribution, and the possible selection issues preventing your organization from achieving a more equitable distribution.

    The second reason the personnel activity data should correspond to the snapshot data is that the itemized listing received when an organization undergoes a compliance review requests "Data on your employment activity (applicants, hires, promotions, and terminations) for the immediately preceding AAP year..." (See item 18.) Thus, if you have a January 1, 2017 AAP, the itemized listing is seeking personnel activity information for the period from January 1, 2016 through December 31, 2016.

    Finally, the third reason the personnel activity data should correspond to the snapshot data is that federal contractors and subcontractors are required to update their affirmative action plans on an annual basis. The Executive Order 11246 regulations require an annual review of personnel activity data, while the regulations regarding protected veterans and individuals with disabilities require an annual analysis of a series of data metrics. One could make an argument that these analyses could cover non-corresponding period (there could be an April 1 snapshot in an AAP with personnel activity data for January 1 through December 31), but there would then be problems with analysis of personnel activity being constantly out of sync with the annual update to the snapshot-related reports such as the organizational profile, the comparison of incumbency to availability, and the disability utilization analysis.

    The bottom line: you might be able to argue that there is no specific, formal requirement in the regulations that the snapshot data should match the period for the personnel activity data, but OFCCP will have very strong objections to this and you will miss an opportunity to review your data in the same manner in which OFCCP expects to review your data.

  • Must an applicant apply to all 5 positions if they are exactly the same?
    Asked by Trisha J. - Jul 17, 2017
    If multiple positions are posted, all the same job, same days worked and same shift, for example we need 5 people to work Monday - Friday 9am-5pm to file. All 5 positions are exactly the same. If an applicant applies to one, can they be assigned to all? It is our understanding under OFCCP we must list all available positions but not all applicants attach their application to all as they believe they have applied it. If we get 10 applicants to the one posting, can they all be attached to all 5 of the same positions?
    Answered by Bill Osterndorf from HR Analytical Services - Jul 18, 2017
    It doesn't actually make sense to produce five separate postings if you expect to hire individuals for the exact same job where the individuals will start on the same date (or approximately the same date), work the same shift, and so on. Candidates will be confused by this kind of posting, and you will potentially have issues as to who should be considered for an opening if a viable candidate applies to only one of the five openings.

    Further, any statistical analyses of applicant and hire data may be problematic. If you truly have five of the exact same openings with the exact same start date, the collective pool of candidates should be compared to each to determine whether outreach activities were successful and whether there were any selection disparities. By posting five separate openings, you may have candidates applying to only one or two of the openings while they are effectively considered for all five openings.

    The formal required in the protected veterans regulations (which is where there is the most explicit required to list open positions) is to "list all employment openings." Positions must be listed with the local state employment service office (i.e. the Employment Service Delivery System office) in "any manner and format permitted" by that office that will allow for priority referral of veterans. (See 41 CFR 60-300.5.) Note that the requirement to list open positions does not say that federal contractors and subcontractors must "separately list all employment openings" or "individually list all employment openings." Thus, listing five positions together where the substantive requirements for the job are the same and the start date is the same seems to be acceptable under the federal affirmative action regulations (so long as the local state employment service office allows that kind of listing).

    If you have five of the exact same positions with the same (or at least a very close) starting date, it makes sense to list the position once, note there are five openings on the listing, collect information on candidates, and then evaluate the candidates against each other. Ultimately, you will be looking for the effective of outreach efforts on this entire pool and you will be looking for whether there were disparities involving all persons hired vs all candidates.

    PLEASE NOTE that this is NOT an encouragement to list dissimilar positions together. It is very important to list different types positions separately. Dissimilar positions should not be listed together because of the importance of analyzing job qualifications against candidates expressing interest in open positions. If you list five openings for "production" or "office" positions, and then try to evaluate candidates against each other, there will be many questions about who was qualified and appropriately selected for the different kinds of jobs that may constitute "production" or "office" positions.

    Please also note that if you are listing multiple positions, but these positions will have staggered start dates, you may want to list these positions separately. If there are staggered start dates where, for example, one new employee starts in June and another starts in October, there may be different pools of viable candidates for these jobs because persons who express consider for the June positions may no longer be interested in the October positions.

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